HIM: I’ve noticed most people resist the momentum of the intellectual and spiritual fire that begins to overtake even a (passionate) neophyte engaging with any real art. ME: Leaving aside for the moment the definitions of “neophyte” and “real,” let me ask you this: Is passion a transitional phase, or a foundation? HIM: Both! ME: Awesome! _Because this is the land of not only passion but also imagination, they embrace._